About Els Costers

Helping an individual or company to grow faster, better or stronger, by inspiring and doing things differently. That is the true strength of Els. With 15 years of experience in sales, Els is the ultimate coach and advocate for consultative selling. Reach out to Els for her specialized advice: els.costers@perpetos.com.


The commercial lever is often sitting right next to you, or one desk over. Did you know that?

There is a curious comfort that lives in a lot of commercial teams.

Marketing delivers leads and sales frowns. Not big enough. Not ripe enough. Not immediately sellable. Meanwhile, elsewhere in the customer base, there are relationships that already trust you, already buy, already pay and already have experience with your people. And still, a huge amount of potential there stays untouched.

As if we secretly believe customers will ask, all by themselves, for everything we could help them with.

Yes, but we do have account plans, I can hear you thinking.

Great. But is that enough? A nice plan. What about the execution, and who is involved in it?

Because in the meantime the competition is dropping by your customer too. They ask plenty of questions, get to know the customer far better, and put an offer on the table that suddenly looks very relevant.

What customers know, and what they don’t

Do all of your customers know the full picture of what your organization can mean for them? Probably not. They mostly know the slice they once became a customer for. The solution it started with. The contact they trust. The routine that formed. And routines are handy, until they lull growth to sleep.

That is exactly why the complexity of account development is so often overestimated in theory, while the potential of cross- and upselling is underestimated in practice.

Upselling is, in essence, selling more of what a customer already buys today: more volume, a broader application, a richer scope. Cross-selling is about other products or services, sometimes to the same person, but often through other stakeholders. In both cases, growth does not start with the offer. It starts with the question of how much of the customer’s context you actually see. And so it starts with what you know and what you ask.

Anyone who keeps having the same conversation with the same contact rarely builds real account growth.

The Commercial Lever

The unused lever

A lot of companies feel this more and more. They just run into their own organization and its division of roles.

Service experts deliver excellent service. Customer care resolves questions. Internal sales processes orders. Account management guards the commercial relationship. Marketing feeds campaigns. Everyone touches the customer, but not necessarily with a shared picture of what is still possible.

So signals get left lying around. Small frustrations are not picked up and new ambitions stay under the radar. Other needs in other departments at the customer never come into view at all.

And then we call it a difficult market. But often it is simply, and unintentionally, not getting everything out of your customer because of a lack of… what, exactly?

In a customer-driven context, commercial impact grows when teams learn to do the right thing, at the right moment, with the right stakeholders. That takes more than good intentions. It takes alignment around the customer journey, buying readiness and the dynamics in the buying group, but above all, knowing what is going on at the customer. Trust is not built only by being nice, but mostly by being relevant in the context of each stakeholder.

Account development, then, is not an isolated sales exercise. It is a team effort.

How do you activate that lever?

It starts with focus. Which customers deserve priority? Where is the biggest growth potential in terms of share of wallet, lifetime value and retention?

In recurring business, that lever often lies in systematically widening relationship breadth and loyalty. In project environments, a first project can be exactly what opens the door to services, expansion or new applications elsewhere in the organization. The commercial model determines where the growth sits, but almost always there is a lever hidden somewhere that can genuinely open doors.

So the question is: who is talking to the customer today? What could that person find out? And how could they be more relevant by having a different conversation?

Mindset: the step everyone skips

As long as people believe that spotting commercial potential is not their role, growth stays stuck in job descriptions. As long as service, support or delivery think they are not allowed to open the conversation or move smoothly into another topic, value stays invisible. And as long as account managers would rather protect their customer from colleagues than connect them with colleagues, caution wins out over growth.

The forward-looking account manager is not a classic salesperson. They are an orchestrator of customer experience and business impact.

Team selling, stakeholder alignment and synchronizing perspectives are essential to genuinely move customers forward.

But mindset alone is not enough.

People also have to learn which other conversations are needed. Not only operational check-ins, but conversations that help clarify problems, make ambitions tangible and bring latent needs into view. Sometimes with the same contact. Sometimes through buying group extension toward other people involved. Not by bluntly kicking in new doors, but by broadening the relationship organically through existing trust.

That takes skills, messaging, a process and practical support. Which signals should someone recognize? Which questions help to look more broadly? And once a need is detected, how do you make sure sales takes it further? Capabilities are not built with training alone, but in context: with methodology, processes, enablement and coaching.

Follow-up: the most underrated part

Not only measuring whether extra leads, and ultimately business, came in, but also whether the desired behavior becomes visible.

Are more leads and concrete customer information being shared? Are other stakeholders being reached, and do we therefore see our contact database at existing customers growing? Are successes celebrated internally when the number of opportunities rises? Is there coaching on what works, and does anything change about what does not?

Lasting growth takes a rhythm of feedback, feed forward and reinforcement in the flow of the work. That is also why durable change always goes beyond a commercial initiative on its own. It touches culture, collaboration and daily habits.

The real question

The real question is not whether your customers still have potential.

The real question is whether your organization is set up so that it can see, discuss and activate that potential.

Because up- and cross-selling do not start with the offer, but with the breadth of your understanding of the customer.

And maybe even more confronting: sometimes your next best lead has been sitting in your customer base for months, waiting for someone to finally dare to have a different conversation.

Usually that starts with appetite, a healthy dose of curiosity and the nerve to open up the conversation. And that, by the way, is best done not over email or chat.


The war for talent is raging. On top of that, B2B buying behavior is changing dramatically. Commercial teams have a hard time finding answers to these ongoing challenges. The changing environment has a serious impact on sales functions, responsibilities and competencies. What your sales team needs now is new skills. Even more than that, it needs a program that enables your team to continuously develop and hone its competencies, through an effective learning method. At Perpetos, we call this your Sales Academy.  

We can think of at least five reasons why your team needs its own Sales Academy: 

  1. Consistent training: A Sales Academy will provide your team with consistent commercial training, ensuring that everyone is on the same page and working towards the same goals. This will help to deliver a consistent and positive customer experience in all the touch points with your organization. In turn, this will lead to improved sales effectiveness and better results. 
     
  1. Customized training: By developing your own Sales Academy, you can customize learning according to the specific needs and performance priorities of your company. This requires a company-specific integration between individual competence gaps, business performance gaps, team interactions, effective messaging that engages customers, and new ways of working. This can include messaging about specific products and services, that are most effective and translated into your sales teams’ reality. 
     
  1. Increased sales: Sales is not that different from athletics. Training and mental fitness are key for a top performance. By providing your commercial team with the tools they need to succeed, you can improve their ability to close deals, improve customer loyalty and maximize revenue for your business. 
     
  1. Improved customer experience: Well-trained people in today’s reality understand how people buy and are also better equipped to do their job. By understanding the different phases of the customer journey and knowing how to adjust messaging accordingly, your sales team will be able to influence buyers more successfully and build stronger relationships. 
     
  1. Increased employee retention: Providing continuous learning opportunities will help to improve employee satisfaction and retention. But just as important is a commercial academy to groom sales talent and facilitate internal job mobility, from a technical role into sales and moving on to key account management. All this requires is a well thought out training strategy with competencies linked to learning modules, which allow people to grow in their career and be guided with Just In Time learning.  

Signing up for a Sales Academy in your B2B organization means that you are serious about installing a culture of continuous improvement, and that you want to stimulate peer-to-peer learning.

People uplift each other when they are challenged. They acquire new competencies and are being reminded about the things they know but no longer apply. After all, the hardest thing to achieve is closing the gap between knowing and doing. 


In our previous post, we explained that a complex business negotiation is much like a chess game. It’s about making a move and anticipating your customer’s next moves. One of our customers, a packaging company, recently learned this by following our Complex Negotiations Implementation Track, an intense training & development program for sales teams and management professionals. Throughout the process, our customer started to have a pretty good idea of what they were doing right and should do more of, what they needed to stop doing, and what they needed to start doing. We packed all the valuable lessons in a practical overview.  
 

What they need to CONTINUE doing 

Have strategic conversations

Before going into the negotiation and even quotation phase, start by exploring the customer’s challenges and priorities for improvement. During preparations, also talk to technical teams or people on the work floor. 

Sell the value, not the product  

Sales reps like to see their customer relationship as a partnership, where they jointly work on Total Cost of Ownership. This is a much better choice than just defending the value or margin on your product. To do this successfully, you need to be able to prove the value you are offering, whether it’s a cost reduction, cost avoidance, increased revenue, or decreased risk.  

You need to make clear that taking your company out of the equation would have a negative impact, one that outweighs the potential price gain from working with a cheaper vendor. The value you offer, including the specialty services on top of your product, is something unique.  

Prepare, prepare, and then prepare some more 

Hamlet knew: readiness is all. Preparation does make a difference. Prepare your meetings and calls by inputting data and insights from the customer in a structured way and always determine a next objective before starting any new customer interaction.   

What they need to STOP doing 

Give discounts  

Discounts don’t exist. Concessions are always a value transfer. Giving a discount without getting something in return will undermine your integrity and credibility. You are always offering the best price as part of your partnership. That is why you need something in return when your customer needs a lower price.  

Enter price negotiations before issues are solved  

Before going into the negotiation endgame (where you discuss what to give and take), you should reconfirm all actions that have been agreed upon and that have led to resolving all objections and concerns. It makes no sense to start your endgame discussion when some issues are still on the table.  

Oversell 

Don’t talk about features or benefits before you are sure that your customer will perceive these as valuable. You need clear confirmation from your customer about the relevance of your features and benefits.  

Ask self-serving questions  

Questions like ‘when are you taking a decision?’ do not help the customer. Instead, ask things like ‘by when would you like to see the first shipment or implementation?’ 

Assume things  

It’s dangerous to assume things. What happened yesterday or today, will not necessarily happen tomorrow. Don’t assume something to be true even if it is true 99% of the time. Instead discuss it with your customer and get confirmation. Remember: one mistake with one customer is 100% failure. 

 “Give” before preparing a give and take list 

You should always have a list of “gives and takes” before entering a negotiation. You need to know what concessions the customer is willing to do in exchange for your give list. Remember, it’s not wise to start giving before the Middlegame (all non-price related matters) has ended.  

What they need to START doing 

Ask the magic opening question 

‘What has changed since the last time we spoke’ is a great opening question. You don’t always know what has happened since you last spoke with your customer, so you should ask this question every time before going into the meeting agenda.  

Close every meeting  

ABC – Always Be Closing: try to get as close as possible to your next objective. Summarize what is agreed upon and ask for confirmation. 

Use the pre-close technique  

You have explored give/take scenarios and you have confirmed these with your internal team/management. The next thing you want to do is apply the pre-closing technique. This means that you assess the mood of the buyer before asking for the sale, so you can move your prospect forward more easily.  

Use the Game Plan template  

When reaching the Middlegame (resolving objections and concerns), use the Game Plan template. This is a tactical support tool which challenges you on all levels. 

Assess the Balance of Power  

Before going into the end game, assess the Balance of Power to prevent procurement from using pressure and emotion as a negotiation tactic. Many sales professionals underestimate the power they have over the customer. You might be surprised about the impact you have on a customer when you talk about what they would lose when moving to a competitor or what they would gain when they do (more) business with you. If you negotiate with more confidence, you will achieve more margin. 

Let’s play chess 

Negotiations are much like chess. And when you apply these lessons learned you’re much more likely to make the best moves and win the game.  

Even if you’re an experienced sales professional, there’s something to be learned here. Based upon my own sales leadership experience, I firmly believe it’s good to be challenged sometimes, especially when you are confronted with changing circumstances, or when you have been in the same company or business for quite some time.  

Just like our packaging customer, it’s a great, eye-opening exercise to draft your own start – stop – continue plan. In fact, I believe this can benefit any sales professional, whether you are experienced or not. It’s useful to always refresh your skills, polish your good habits, and have a fresh pair of eyes looking over your shoulder.

My colleagues and I have supported many experienced and senior professionals in this. If you are looking for a negotiation trajectory, similar to what we have offered to our packaging customer, we can be that partner for you.


If life is like a box of chocolates, then a business negotiation is definitely like a chess game. It’s about making a move and anticipating the next move of your customer. That’s the analogy we use in our complex negotiations implementation track, which we recently offered to a customer in the packaging industry. Let’s have a look at how we improved this customer’s negotiation outcomes. 

A few days into the implementation track, we already received encouraging customer feedback:

Thanks to the Perpetos workshop on Complex Negotiations, we were able to close a difficult negotiation that had been going on for several months, and we brought a good result home.

Of course, this didn’t come out of nothing. Just like a chess game, the negotiations had a well-prepared opening, middlegame and end game. Here is what happened. 

Opening: price pressure  

Our above-mentioned packaging company was suddenly confronted with one of their long-term, high-volume customers who after a leadership change decided to bid and test the market. The customer wanted to reduce their current raw material prices by 5% and even succeeded in obtaining a price offer that was 12% below our packaging company’s proposal.  

The customer was not opposed to a 3-year agreement per se. However, they did not want to be tied to automatic material (price) increases. Instead, they preferred to negotiate and test the market annually. In chess terms, the customer had made its opening move.  

Middlegame: a well-conceived game plan  

Was giving in to price pressure the only option for our packaging company? Far from it. This is how they handled it differently. For starters, the packaging company’s sales representative prepared his case using our Game Plan Template, which focuses on the customer’s needs and helps to map out all possible scenarios prior to the first customer meeting. 

Next, the sales rep assessed the balance of power. Based on that, he came to an understanding how he could influence that balance and determine his starting position. His plan A was a 3-year contract with a 16% price increase. Plan B included a 3-year contract with an 11% price increase and 10 M$ of new volume. 

The sales rep started the meeting with one simple question: “What has changed since the last time we spoke?” The question brought him a ton of new information about the buyer’s priorities and additional responsibilities. During the discussion, the focus was not so much on selling the packaging, but it shifted towards the added value and services provided by the packaging company. The sales rep also made sure that all open issues were closed at the table. This boxed the buyer into a position where he did not have any leverage relating to service or quality.  

End game: giving and taking   

Despite expecting a 5% price reduction, the customer did sign a 3-year contract with a 16% price increase. In exchange for this concession by the customer, the packaging sales rep agreed to reduce the increase to 11% for business or additional volumes coming from a new plant.  

Everybody wins  

Both buyer and seller came out better from the negotiation. This may sound easy, but in practice it’s not. It can be hard to sit in front of a customer who believes the market is softening and who demands price increases based on outdated material indices.  

You could also argue that all the above is obvious. So, why would you need a training or implementation track for that? Our answer to that question is: anyone who has been sitting in front of a customer lately, anyone who has sensed the heat of the moment, will know that these things aren’t obvious. We don’t always apply what we have learned, especially when we’re in the everyday rush. People do not change their behavior overnight, especially salespeople, who can be a bit stubborn. (I’m allowed to say that, because I am one.) 

Tools for negotiation success  

At Perpetos, we develop tools, we provide handles, and we give tips to put all the above advice into practice and to embed it in your daily sales approach. Implementation is the most difficult part of a change process. That’s where we go the extra mile. We do not just train people, we help them to implement change as well. 

Here is some feedback we received from participants of our recent implementation track: 

Negotiation is a chess game indeed. No matter how close your relationship with the buyer is, they can never be completely truthful. Preparation is so important. Confidence in the value you can provide, makes all the difference for your mindset.

When a customer makes a request, it’s OK to push back and ask something in return.

I need to dig deeper and find the underlying request. Never just assume!

Great session, it gave me the tools I need to take this to my customer.

More chess  

In our next blog, we’ll discuss some more lessons from the field. We’ll share the key takeaways from the implementation track followed by our packaging company. These lessons were learned during several workshops we had with the EU and US leadership team and global key account managers. 


Value selling means selling a product or service while focusing on the added value you create for the customer. But how exactly do you do that? And how does value selling affect your experience with the customer?

Selling starts with understanding your customer’s end goal. The classic example that everyone knows by now is the story of the drill and the hole. Customers are not looking for products, they are looking for solutions, right? Okay, but what about the adhesive strip? Yes, there is that too, and this is where added value really comes into play.

Here’s what we mean. Your customer wants to hang a painting, so she needs a hole, not a drill. Right? Wrong: She wants to hang something, display something. But what does she want to hang? Is it something heavy? Does she want to change the content or place from time to time? If so, the adhesive strip is the right solution. After all, it leaves no marks and you can reposition your painting without damaging your wall. 3M understood this very well at the time.

Watch the video to learn more about the different phases in the customer journey and how to act in a successful way:

Do you understand your customer?

How often do you really know what your customer wants? How often do you know their end goal? Probably not always, maybe even rarely. Sales & marketing professionals don’t always dare to ask what they think they should have already known. So they remain silent.

Never assume, it makes an ASS out of U and ME. My boss used to tell me that, ad nauseam. But he was right, unfortunately.

If you understand the conceivable impact of your offering, if you understand its capabilities or competencies for the customer, then you can really add value to your conversation.

What is your value?

In a B2B context, you can reduce the impact of almost any product or service to one (or more) of these:

  • Time savings and thus cost savings
  • Increase in sales (i.e. by selling more or more expensive products)
  • Increase in margin

For many solutions you will have to make a considerable bridge between the strengths of your offering and its impact on your customer. Making that translation is value selling.

Now take a look at your website, sales presentations and other sales & marketing materials. How often do you talk about “we and us”? How often do you talk about “you and your company”? If you do mostly the former, then addressing your value proposition is an important first step.

3 important aspects of value selling

1. Know your customer and relevant stakeholders

Each stakeholder has their own experiences, intentions and goals. Understand the context in which your customer operates. Try to gain insight into their underlying motivations. This way you can later influence them to your own advantage. Engage in conversation and dare to ask the right questions.

2. Make a bridge between your solution and the (personal) impact for all stakeholders.

Make it concrete using examples, tangible evidence and/or customer testimonials. Calculate the return on investment (ROI) for the client so that the impact becomes even more tangible.

3. Understand your customer’s propensity to buy.

Before customers make a final buying decision, they go through several mental phases. Some customers go through those phases quickly, while others need a little more time. Depending on how prepared your customer is to buy, they will focus on different things. That in turn determines what your customer will actively listen to and what messages he is open to. Adjust your communication accordingly. Packaging your sales messages according to Why Change, Why Us, Why Stay will result in increased margin and win-rates.

Practical tips for value selling

  1. Share new insights or information that your customer does not have (easy) access to.
  2. Show new perspectives or suggest a new way of working that your client may not have considered.
  3. Navigate by providing knowledge. Help your customer make the right decisions.
  4. Help your client dodge the minefield by avoiding bad decisions.
  5. Help to sell to peers or upper management decision makers.
  6. Justify the purchase by quantifying the added value.

You can learn how to value-sell

Value selling means not being afraid to engage in conversation and ask the right questions. To my great surprise, in my experience with sales teams, therein lies the biggest challenge for sales professionals. It’s about conversation techniques, above and beyond questioning techniques. How do you formulate the right questions? How do you encourage the customer to tell you much more? How do you start a dialogue, instead of an interrogation?

The good news? Value selling can be learned. Even more, we can help you do it.

In our next blog post, we’ll take a closer look at why value selling is a good idea, and we’ll discuss the impact value selling has on your sales success.